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DNR Should Be The Default – PRO: Alex Psirides, CON: Sara Gray

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Psirides Gary - DNR default

Alex Psirides
The application of ‘CPR-for-all’ is the ultimate evidence drift. A treatment that is completely appropriate for dropping dead whilst running a marathon has almost no place in acute healthcare facilities where chronic irreversible complex co-morbidities abound. 90% of doctors would not choose CPR for themselves, yet 100% are trained in how to administer it to patients. Defaulting to ‘CPR-for-all’ removes a patients’ ability to provide informed consent for assault whilst they die from another disease. Remember – 2 weeks in ICU can spare you 5 minutes of difficult conversation.

Sara Gray
Across the globe, patients are assumed to be full code to allow for prompt resuscitation, until code status can be discussed and clarified. There are numerous excellent reasons for this. Can you imagine if our systems decreed that DNR was the default? “Let’s not shock that VF, until we can clarify his code status.” Or, “let’s not resuscitate that child, after all, DNR is the default and her mother isn’t here yet!” Making DNR the default is not a good solution to ICU or hospital over-crowding. Let’s not mandate DNR, let’s mandate having reasonable code discussions early and often.

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DNR Should Be The Default - PRO: Alex Psirides, CON: Sara Gray from SMACC Conference

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